“Depending on who interrogates him and where, several Al Qaeda operations in the planning, preparation, and execution may be disrupted,” says Rohan Gunaratna, an Al Qaeda expert at St. Andrews University in Scotland. “As head of the military committee of Al Qaeda, he knows all the key regional leaders and assets … in at least 98 countries.”
“This arrest is likely to have profound repercussions on Al Qaeda, and perhaps even on bin Laden and his continued ability to avoid apprehension,” says Bruce Hoffman, an expert on terror at the Rand Corp. “Mohammed has been at the vortex of every major operation going back a decade - from the first bombing of the World Trade Center to 9/11 to the most recent incidents.”
The above quotations are from March 3, 2003, immediately after the capture of Khalid Sheik Mohammed. As summarized in the Christian Science Monitor:
Nabbed with two compatriots in a joint FBI-Pakistani sting, he would know virtually every operation in the planning stages - including those in the US.
Rohan Gunaratna and Bruce Hoffman are two of the most respected academics in the counter terrorism field. Their statements on the critical importance of a successful interrogation of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed are as succinct as I can image. Did Senator John McCain go on the today show in March 2003 to say “yes, it would be nice to learn what he knows, but only if you don’t use waterboarding?”
Of course not. But on “Today,” September 22, 2006, on the topic of interrogation legislation, Senator McCain said “there will be no such thing as waterboarding…You will never see that again. We stood up and said that cannot be done.”
Three years after the KSM capture, and after five years of preemption of another major homeland attack, elites and politicos seem to have completely forgotten what the stakes are. Fortunately, the US president did not forget the stakes, and a successful interrogation of KSM yielded critical intelligence on Al Qaeda networks and planned operations.
Via Powerline, I found this essay by Vasko Kohlmayer, which argues the importance of the waterboarding interrogation technique in “appropriate cases”. While I’m no expert on interrogation, I think Kohlmayer makes a persuasive argument. Neither does Kohlmayer have any professional credentials in interrogation, but he reasons well — and he is a refugee/defector from Communist Czechoslovakia [at the age of 19, now a US citizen, based in the UK]. Kohlmayer is another example of a clear-thinking mind from the lands once under the thumb of real tyranny. I think of Václav Havel as representing the class of former Soviet subjects who are very clear on priorities.
Back to the lead question on appropriate interrogation techniques — applied specifically to waterboarding. For whom and when is it appropriate? For me, the case of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is straightforward - yes. Where lies the lower bound of past or future non-cooperating detainees who should not be subjected to waterboarding? I’m not sure how to craft that definition — further I’m not comfortable that the sort of legalistic precision appropriate for domestic criminal legislation is the guidance that should be given to front line interrogators.
My take on waterboarding has been influenced by my readings on the SERE training provided to the US military [and intelligence operatives]. When the Sen. McCain concerns surfaced I couldn’t figure out why he believed that a rather obviously non-harmful technique that is taught/demonstrated to US citizens should not be used to obtain life-saving information from people whose mission is to kill as many US citizens as possible. For readers not familiar with SERE training (Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape), please see this earlier post based on three reports from US military pilots on how they undergo waterboarding interrogation as part of their training.
Does Sen. McCain really want to exempt terrorists from an effective interrogation technique that is experienced by thousands of CIA and US military trainees every year?
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