(…) Before he went back to Apple, we were on Charlie Rose together. Charlie asked him about Apple on the air, and Steve didn’t really answer. But after the cameras were off, he turned to Charlie and said, “I know how to save Apple. But they’re just not listening to me yet.” I thought, “Huh. That’s interesting.” A few months later, Apple bought NeXT, and Steve sat me down at Pixar and asked my permission to go back to Apple. He didn’t want to do it without our blessing. He said he wanted to go back because the world would be a better place with Apple in it. That was incredibly touching to me, and it showed that Steve cared about people. He knew that his products and technology could improve people’s lives.